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here are a lot of political podcasts that feature two hosts providing reaction and analysis about the latest Westminster news. 

This new podcast from The Independent takes a different approach, featuring two experts who have had years of experience working inside government. It means you’ll get an insight into how leaders might be navigating the latest crisis and the forces that drive major political decision-making. 

Rich in anecdotes and source-based reporting, the podcast is hosted by former Deputy Cabinet Secretary Helen MacNamara and former political adviser Cleo Watson, who was an advisor to Boris Johnson and Theresa May. And yes, like other political podcasts out there, there are emergency episodes, including one on the recent Mandelson vetting scandal.

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